When I started researching what it is seers see, for a long time, I seriously considered Quantum Physics as an explanation. Quantum Physics is the physics of the very small – smaller than atoms. This field of science examines how these very small particles/wave of matter and energy operate. Quantum mechanics refers to the math that describes how these wave particles operate, interact with each other and basically work. The math of quantum mechanics has the most accuracy and precision of any field of science.
Since quantum physics is commonly thought to be the building blocks of all reality, including other dimensions, and since spirits seem to move in and out of our reality somehow, then it seemed logical to me that quantum physics can help us understand spiritual phenomena.
I was wrong.
I Spoke of What I Knew Not!
Some articles and posts on this site contain vestiges of this thinking. I even recommended books by non-specialists who took quantum theory and applied it to spiritual phenomena in the Bible or to spiritual phenomena some people today witness or experience.
It seems logical to connect quantum physics to spiritual things, but it is not logical. It only seems logical to those who do not really understand quantum physics but use it to further some point, or really do understand quantum physics but use the lack of understanding most people have to further some point.
I fell in the former category: I didn’t understand it and so misapplied quantum physics to spiritual things.
After I began Seers See Ministries and spreading the word that many people really do see spiritual things (but did not have a comprehensive model about what or why seers see) a new pastor at my church began teaching. His name is Putty Putman, and he has a Ph.D. from the University of Illinois in Quantum Physics. He studied quantum fields. He was a good physicist, and the Lord called him into full-time ministry.
He became a pastor at the Vineyard Church of Central Illinois and eventually started the School of Kingdom Ministry, which I later graduated from. When Putty began teaching, I was so excited! I thought finally, he’d teach from the pulpit of a major church how quantum physics explains spiritual phenomena.
I thought he’d explain how quantum theory explains how the blind see, how the sick get healed, how demons are cast out and many other signs and wonders (all of which happen at the Vineyard regularly).
Putty never did, and because he never did, he seemed to indicate these weren’t phenomena that could be explained by science, but instead, were supernatural. (Imagine that!)
I started to wonder if my idea that quantum theory explained spiritual phenomena might be wrong. One day, Putty brought up these ideas from the stage, and I thought, here at last!
Then came the kicker.
He said basically, these ideas aren’t connected, and “if you think these are connected, congratulations, you might be a Gnostic.”
Woah. He went on to explain. Basically, if you think miracles, signs and wonders can be explained by quantum physics or if you think the appearance of demons and angels can be explained by quantum mechanics, then guess what: these things aren’t supernatural.
But they are supernatural. Signs and wonders accompany the advancing of the Kingdom. The regular rules on earth don’t apply when the rule of heaven invades. Much of what I believe about the spirit realm and have taught on this website and through my podcast was either taught or affirmed by the Vineyard’s teaching and the School of Kingdom Ministry.
Weirdly Not Connected. Well, Not So Weirdly After All
Regular rules of physics don’t apply in the quantum world. Things behave weirdly on those tiny scales – although explainable by math. Some people decide to link the weirdness of the math with the weirdness of the spirit realm: but the weirdness isn’t really connected. It’s like comparing how an apple tastes to how a battleship tastes, and then saying both are nutritious food. It’s a complete non-sensical non-comparison.
In this Peeranormal Podcast episode (the first of 3 on the topic), we are joined by Putty. We talk quantum mechanics and then look at why it should not be brought up when discussing the spirit realm. You can hear first hand from a pastor who is also a specialist in the field of quantum physics and (after all 3 episodes are released) learn first hand why quantum physics should not be used to discuss spiritual things or how and why seers see.
This episode is really good. Although I was a part of it, I’ve listened to it two more times to help grasp the concepts. From the episode notes:
This episode launches a series on quantum mechanics and its presumed relationship to metaphysical ideas, religion, theology, and the paranormal. During the series we’ll be joined by Dr. Rob (“Putty”) Putman, who holds a PhD in theoretical quantum physics, but now pastors a church in Illinois. In this first episode, we survey the history of quantum mechanics and talk about how some of the important ideas are used to make metaphysical statements about all of reality—statements that are inherently theological and religious. Are such statements accurate? What can we really say about the nature of reality and God on the basis of quantum physics?
Our Identity is Righteousness
Here is an unrelated message from Putty that is powerful.